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51 comments

  • Comment Link Nick Sivertsen Tuesday, 28 February 2017 15:07

    Three points:

    1: Well said suggesting Celebrants put their hard-earned advertising dollar into non-profit Associations, rather than the plethora of for-profit businesses that promise so much, and often deliver so little. Of course, some Celebrant Associations are better than others, but by being active members, we have a say in what we want from them.

    2: CoCA does a wonderful job, and I thank you. I have participated in every survey/questionnaire that I have been invited to over the years. And the name provides endless amusement at meetings and conferences, where I have heard CoCA referred to as Cocoa, Coker, Cocas and more. Love it.

    3:Your emails sign off: Kind Regards, CoCA Secretary. How about a name? After all that passion and Industry love and support, 'CoCA Secretary' is so very impersonal.

    Keep up the great work.

    MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

    CoCA COMMENT: All CoCA associations delegates work together on putting out our news. And office bearers are not an executive with higher status. So whilst the News may look a little impersonal, this is to show the news is a group effort. We are not a secret society :-) Our Contact Us page shows who our office bearers are, and under About Us - is a list of who are delegates. http://www.coalitionofcelebrantassociations.org.au/about-coca/31-about-the-company/145-association-delegates
    Thanks too for seeing the value of our work. CoCA delegates are passionate volunteers who do care about the future of our profession. All the best Rona

  • Comment Link Janette Bastick Monday, 20 June 2016 07:45

    Please be advised that ACMC of NSW & ACT newly appointed main delegate is now John O'Carrigan and Jan Bastick is the other delegate.

  • Comment Link Judith Coate Tuesday, 01 December 2015 19:48

    As I am no longer a Celebrant, please would you remove me from your mailing list
    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

    COCA COMMENT. Thanks for letting us know Judy. Your email address has been removed.

    Thank you for your service in our profession. All the very best for your future

  • Comment Link Dennis Buckle Wednesday, 04 November 2015 23:01

    Called ATG to inquire regarding the issuing of the annual registration certificate as was the case last year and they advised that this is no longer issued. My thoughts are that the $240 annual fee would cover the cost of the certificate and postage. I have framed last years certificate and have on show when interviewing prospective couples but it shows the expiry date of June 2015 which is not a good look. Your thoughts please.
    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

    CoCA response:

    Dear Celebrant

    CoCA raised concerns about

    1. the issue of insurance cover in the period between the "Registered To" Date and the Date we paid our fee, which could have been 7 weeks. CoCA's argument was that insurers could say we were not registered during that period, and default on cover

    2. the cost of administration of this did not justify their cost of production and distribution, given under the Act the Registrar is required to have an up-to-date list of all authorised marriage celebrants now published on: http://marriage.ag.gov.au/allcelebrants/both
    where any member of the public can check upon the authorisation of a celebrant.

    Note: Commonwealth Marriage Celebrants are the only category of marriage celebrants required to pay a fee for their regulation. Two-thirds do not. CoCA considers this fee should remain the same or reduce over time as evidence of the efficiency of the government department administering this.

    3. couples could become anxious seeing that we were only registered to a certain date, and thus be reluctant to book us. Commonwealth Marriage Celebrants have life-time authorisations, subject to paying the annual fee, doing OPD and continuing to be fit & proper persons, and thus are not "unregistered" during the time frame in which they can pay the fee. Implying so, removes further parity with other groups of marriage celebrants and disadvantages Commonwealth celebrants.

    As a result of these representations, the Department no longer produces annual certificates. We trust this explains the situation.

  • Comment Link brad Wednesday, 04 November 2015 13:12

    Thank you so much for the email you sent recently to all celebrants about your meeting with the AG's department. It was informative and succinct and easy to read. I am not a member of any organisation and will not be researching some today to join. thank you so much for the care you take in representing us to the AG's department. I do feel that I am now more informed since CoCA was established. All the best.
    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

  • Comment Link Jessica Lewry Tuesday, 03 November 2015 21:31

    Shocked that not completing the questionnaire could leave a black mark against a celebrant's name. No warning of this at all and although I tried several times to complete the questionnaire, I was unable to log on. Whos fault is that going to be?
    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

  • Comment Link Dawn Hickey Tuesday, 03 November 2015 19:41

    I have no issues regarding the Department of the Attorney-General.

    Celebrants who did not pay their fee by the allocated date and/or who did not complete the Questionnaire, for whatever reason, are the problem.

    When working at the Legal Aid Commission of New South Wales we encountered problems such as the above. Magistrates informed Charge Sheet Holders who were late or who did not attend on the prescribed date that Court was not an Invitation to Morning Tea!
    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

  • Comment Link Rona Goold Monday, 12 October 2015 13:08

    In response to the Marriage Celebrant who posted the query on Wednesday, 05 August 2015 21:43 as regards resigning if the definition of marriage were to change and whether there would be compensation.

    My hunch is that the government would not wish to be up for any more money.

    One solution is to "grandfather/ grandmother out" those existing civil celebrants, NOT NEW civil celebrants, who would prefer not to do same sex marriages by requiring those celebrants to apply for an exemption within a specified period of time. Then this exemption could be noted on the official AG Register of civil celebrants, and as such, one assumes, no legal action could be taken against them on the grounds of discrimination based on sex/gender.

    I would think this could have the "added protection" of removing the anxiety from celebrants, like myself, who support same sex marriage, but who may have to decline to do a same sex marriage or later need to transfer a same sex marriage, for reasons other that discrimination on gender/sex. In a litigious climate, this assumption could be made. However if I had had the right to an exemption and not taken that, it should be safely assumed that I have in principle supported same sex marriage and are OK with doing these ceremonies.

    I say only EXISTING celebrants for the reasons this celebrant's comment raises. All civil celebrants spend huge personal income to become civil marriage celebrants, and the vast majority 95% can not make a weekly sustainable wage from marriage work alone.

    Independent commonwealth celebrants are not in receipt of a salary as are the BDM staff, nor a stipend, house and vehicle as are the Recognised Religious who are exempted under the existing Marriage Act anyway. So those celebrants authorised before any change of the law, have spent time and money in good faith on the existing definition as outlined in the Marriage Act 1961.

    However independent civil celebrants, authorised AFTER the change of law, should NOT be exempted, because the role of civil celebrants is to uphold civil law. Workers in government (civil) services funded by tax payers monies cannot discriminate on sex/gender as required by our Anti-discrimination laws - eg homosexual nurses can not refuse to provide care to patients because that patient is heterosexual, or a heterosexual doctor refuse to treat a homosexual patient on the grounds of sexuality alone.

    The Commonwealth Marriage Celebrant Program came into being on grounds one could today describe as upon civil and human rights. So it would be an enormous step backwards to allow ad infinitum into the future ANY civil marriage celebrants to discriminate on the grounds of gender/ sexuality etc. if the law were to change.

    Perhaps CoCA could be requested to consider this solution to such concerns raised, given the results of the recent 2015 CoCA survey:
    http://www.coalitionofcelebrantassociations.org.au/for-celebrants/84-the-marriage-act-and-celebrants/361-same-sex-marriage-survey-results

    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

  • Comment Link Stephen Sacco Wednesday, 05 August 2015 21:43

    My concern is that If the definition of marriage is changed to include same sex couples, that civil celebrants may be subject to discipline or law suits for declining to officiate at such ceremonies. If the law was changed, would I have the right to be compensated for my time and expenditure in becoming a registered celebrant if I chose to resign?

    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

  • Comment Link Jan Bastick Sunday, 12 July 2015 12:51

    I am concerned about the legalistic approach taken by AG Marriage Section staff. They do not seem to care whether or not it is a beautiful occasion, just so long as the forms are filled out correctly. The popup weddings being conducted by BDM Sydney at their offices and elsewhere is evidence enough.

    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

  • Comment Link Zulema Buchanan Thursday, 09 July 2015 15:46

    Hi
    I am little confussed about new forms etc. I very rarely preform a marriage these days however want to keep up my registration. I dont always have time to read all the emails. I have a wedding in October do I need new forms etc such as my form 14 andMarriage register book?
    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

    Note from CoCA:
    The new forms must be used for all marriages after 1st January 2015. These forms are available to download and print from the Attorney General's website http://www.ag.gov.au/marriage, select for marriage celebrants and click on forms. The new forms include NOIM (old form 13), Certificate of Marriage (old form 16) and Notice of No Impediment to Marriage (old form 14)
    The Red Marriage Register can still be used as the 2nd signed copy for your records

  • Comment Link Patricia A. Lysons Tuesday, 07 July 2015 11:51

    I am worried about same-sex marriage. Soon we will be one of the few Western Societies without it.
    The new forms are deficient in space.
    Some OPDs have been a waste of time and money.

    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

  • Comment Link Kaye Hartog Monday, 06 July 2015 10:29

    Review of the following
    • Marriage Equality - Is it time for Australia?
    • Review of marriage forms
    • NSW BDM offering weddings in non-government venues

    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

  • Comment Link Leanne M Wade Thursday, 04 June 2015 18:30

    Having just received a response to a complaint from June 2013. 2 YEARS!! Surely there is policy on complaint management within Marriage Celebrant Section AGD?? This time duration is excessive and archaic, when every place I have worked in management has a complaint policy? I'm was given 3 weeks to respond in June 2013...yet they can take this length of time.?

    Any comments and support here appreciated 1st one- never had one before or after...compliant since 2009. ..

    Warm regards

    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

  • Comment Link Pam Giblin Friday, 21 November 2014 07:42

    I find with OPD that the options are always similar. I live in Hobart, so my face to face options are very limited. I opted for online OPD this year and picked a subject I thought would be stimulating and stretch me. I was very disappointed! I felt I could have created a much better course outline than the provider. I enjoy the compulsory part of OPD as it is always useful, but the other needs to be stimulating and useful. It often feels like a waste of time.

    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

  • Comment Link Anne Young Tuesday, 18 November 2014 19:10

    Hello there - should we as Funeral Celebrants advise mourners prior to commencement of service, that the service will be recorded? My background (state government education sector), it is mandatory to alert people of photos and recordings and gain their permission. What is the stance at funerals? For my own peace of mind, I would like to announce recording prior to the funeral service. Your thoughts would be appreciated thank you.
    Regards

    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

  • Comment Link Lynnette Olsen Monday, 10 November 2014 17:36

    Why is it now necessary for Authorised Celebrants to pay for the 'Declaration of No Legal Impediment to Marriage'?
    Not only is this an added expense, but it also means that they must be completed by hand and cannot be completed in legible computer type.

    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

  • Comment Link lynette jacobs Saturday, 08 November 2014 08:14

    Hello
    I belong to an association and whilst the body assists everyone with everything I feel the issue most talked about was the changes in forms, this caused the most confusion and suggestions should be to ensure the changes happen with Canprint etc being ready to go straight away, to ensure a smooth change over not waiting for months until they were ready.

    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

  • Comment Link Denis Shaw Thursday, 06 November 2014 09:53

    I believe (and have always believed) that if the AG’s Department is still intent on slugging Celebrants their annual registration fee that we should get something for our money other than just ‘a license to print money’ (laughingly said !!). With the fee that they levy (read ‘tax’) they could at least provide a quarterly newsletter with what is going on in the world of celebrancy nationwide (that is, of course, if they actually KNOW what is going on in the world of celebrancy) and provide the lessons that celebrants ‘need to learn’ in the newsletter rather than burden celebrants with an additional ‘financial’ burden as well as ‘time’ burden. I am quite sure that THEY don’t pay an annual fee to be bureaucrats every year.

    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

  • Comment Link Cheryl OGrady Tuesday, 04 November 2014 08:43

    You will need to remove me from your celebrant list as I am no longer registered.

    I am situated in a remote rural village of population 466 (which did NOT appear on the designated 'remote areas' map and so I had not been performing a huge number of ceremonies around the district. I could not afford the extra fee on top of OPD costs and thought it inappropriate that I pass the fee on to struggling rural people.

    It was disappointing there appears to have been little consultation with celebrants in the rural context and I suspect there would be other good people culled in the process further inconveniencing country people. Thank you.

    COMMONWEALTH MARRIAGE CELEBRANT - NAME SUPPLIED & VERIFIED

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